tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post7461575237684199485..comments2024-03-29T08:47:59.918+01:00Comments on The Wine Gourd: Ranking America’s most popular cheap winesDavid Morrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11578729952036086391noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-2229584165915450002017-10-25T03:16:53.879+02:002017-10-25T03:16:53.879+02:00Maybe decided via a Ouija board?Maybe decided via a Ouija board?Bob Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02089688073031173053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-43096315083014940972017-10-24T15:30:30.121+02:002017-10-24T15:30:30.121+02:00Hej Joel!
Thanks for your comment.
I have never ...Hej Joel!<br /><br />Thanks for your comment.<br /><br />I have never tried pooling all of the CellarTracker scores, although I have looked at them for individual wines (https://winegourd.blogspot.com/2016/12/are-there-biases-in-community-wine.html). Like you, I am not sure how people decide on a score of 83 versus 86. Maybe I should look into it a bit more.<br /><br />DavidDavid Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11578729952036086391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-10515160390840352462017-10-24T00:54:47.420+02:002017-10-24T00:54:47.420+02:00Interesting approach...looking at the CellarTracke...Interesting approach...looking at the CellarTracker data (which, I agree, is a good representation of reality), the points are actually well-banded in the 82-88 point range. I think that if you were to plot all CellarTracker scores, you will find probably five groups: 93 pt or more (very small), 89-92 (large #), 85-88 (very large, 81-84 (small), and less than 80 (small). Wines are rated outstanding, very good, good, meh, or bad. Ergo, most of these wines are good or meh. Makes good sense to me and my palate. Trying to differentiate between 83 and 86 pts - that's useless, as there isn't the consistency of ratings to any absolute scale that would justify the separation. GIGO.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17822512486353507664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-9193027299248676022017-10-23T20:49:24.755+02:002017-10-23T20:49:24.755+02:00Hej Bob!
The averages don't really assume any...Hej Bob!<br /><br />The averages don't really assume anything about the wines. They are simply a convenient means of summarizing the perceived quality of the wines over recent years. My intention is that they might be a more useful assessment of the wines than a single tasting from a panel.<br /><br />As for vintage consistency, most of the wines seem to have consistent CellarTracker scores from year to year. I presume that the producers are deliberately trying to provide consistent wines, so that the drinkers know what to expect from year to year.<br /><br />DavidDavid Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11578729952036086391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-4608529039436967392017-10-23T05:52:08.189+02:002017-10-23T05:52:08.189+02:00David,
You write:
"For each of the 26 wines...David,<br /><br />You write:<br /><br />"For each of the 26 wines, I simply averaged the CellarTracker quality scores for the previous five vintages for which there were scores available (in most cases there were >50 such scores)."<br /><br />Are you implicitly assuming these previous five vintages had similar growing season through harvest season weather, which would have a negligible affect on conducting a vertical tasting preference vote of the wines?<br /><br />Alternately, are you implicitly assuming that the "commodity quality" of these low priced/mass produced wines -- manipulated by their producers to be consistent year-after-year -- have an unvarying house style?<br /><br />If these wines had come from France (say Bordeaux) during the five consecutive year time period 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, I would anticipate large swings in their relative quality and house style.<br /><br />Whereas in California we have more consistent growing season through harvest season weather over a comparative five consecutive year period.<br /><br />BobBob Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02089688073031173053noreply@blogger.com