tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post7283003352315555704..comments2024-03-28T07:27:16.088+01:00Comments on The Wine Gourd: How many 100-point wine-quality scales are there?David Morrisonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11578729952036086391noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-4275615253540810922019-04-11T10:21:46.698+02:002019-04-11T10:21:46.698+02:00William:
Here is the wine cartoon you allude to:
...William:<br /><br />Here is the wine cartoon you allude to:<br /><br />https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/db950c3989818.5601cbb9befe6.jpg<br /><br />Pacific Wine Company was a leading wine merchant in its day in San Francisco.<br /><br />Illustrator Bob Johnson was commissioned to create original artwork for their circa 1980s era newsletter.<br /><br />More cartoons:<br /><br />https://www.behance.net/gallery/686573/SF-PACIFIC-WINE-COMPANY-Wine-Cartoons<br /><br />Enjoy!<br /><br />~~ BobBob Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02089688073031173053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-32634775155775520182018-09-04T20:26:23.657+02:002018-09-04T20:26:23.657+02:00That's the point. All we NEED to know is if th...That's the point. All we NEED to know is if the wine is well made. I don't care if all the experts agree to a 't' but it doesn't match YOUR taste profile. Why don't we simply trust our own pallets? Because we are Americans!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16867100049730931075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-51284622732970703092018-09-04T17:54:14.731+02:002018-09-04T17:54:14.731+02:00The UCDavis scale certainly tries to reduce the su...The UCDavis scale certainly tries to reduce the subjective component, which is a desirable goal. The main problem is, as I discuss in a later post, that in order for the sum to have any mathematical meaning then each of the points added must be equivalent to one another. This is rather hard to implement when we are considering all of the very different organoleptic qualities of wine.<br /><br />cheers, DavidDavid Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00276520192744208262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-13094581751809395642018-09-04T15:42:45.526+02:002018-09-04T15:42:45.526+02:00Personally, I still prefer the UC Davis system, wh...Personally, I still prefer the UC Davis system, why? Because it rates the quality of the wine in various degrees to come up with an overall quality rating. I have used it with novices and it works even with them. The problem with the others is subjectivity.<br /><br />Under the Davis system, there are just two subjective points, under Parker:<br />• Color and appearance have 5 points.<br />• The aroma and bouquet receive up to 15 points.<br />• The passage of mouth and aftertaste receive up to 20 points.<br />• Finally, the overall quality level and the potential for future evolution and improvement receive up to 10 points.<br /> <br />I have been in tastings with other 100 point systems that can have 20-25 subjective points. That is the problem: we aren't judging wine quality, we are letting the taster tell us what he/she likes and frankly, who cares? I certainly don't since I differ greatly in what Parker looks for in a wine and have been disappointed at times when I buy (used to) based on his or anyone's rating<br />I would be interested in your opinions and will end with a study that was done showing point escalation or 'rounding up' to 90 which this article illustrates, although not stated, to me.<br /><br />For my 50th birthday, we had a party on the Napa Wine Train. Waiting to board I saw this in a gift shop:<br />Man in tasting room: This wine is awful...worst I have ever tasted!<br />Pourer: Really? Parker gave it a 90.<br />Man: I'll take two cases!<br /><br />Just as Sideways tarnished Merlot, and embellished Pinot's (the joke being that Mile's favorite wine was Cheval Blanc which is predominantly Merlot), ratings are leaving a lot of good wines sitting on retailers shelves.<br /><br />While I applaud Parker for creating a system that has improved quality of wine (in his early publications there were many wines with mid-80's scores and until the '82 Bordeaux, I can't recall any wine with a rating of 99 or higher), and Michel Rolland's efforts (although I fear all wines would taste alike if everyone made them to his standards), it is time for the consumer to take control and have the confidence to drink and pour for guests, wines they feel are high quality. The same goes for vintages: there are winners and losers in each one and terroir does make a difference.<br /><br />That's how I see it.<br />Trader Bill (from my wine blog: www.traderbillonwine.com)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16867100049730931075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-25128794901771236832017-09-21T09:31:30.515+02:002017-09-21T09:31:30.515+02:00From The Drinks Business Online
(May 7, 2015):
&q...From The Drinks Business Online<br />(May 7, 2015):<br /><br />"PARKER: NOT AWARDING 100 POINTS 'IRRESPONSIBLE' "<br /><br />Link: https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2015/05/parker-not-awarding-100-points-irresponsible/<br /><br />By Patrick Schmitt <br /><br />During an interview with the drinks business earlier this year, Parker – who developed the 100-point rating system – expressed his urge to award full marks to great wines, and his dismay at those who don’t.<br /><br />“When, in your mind, the wine is the best example you have ever tasted of this particular wine, you have an obligation to give it a perfect score,” he told db.<br /><br />On the other hand, he branded those who are incapable of awarding a perfect score “irresponsible”.<br /><br />“I think the person who can’t give 100 is really dodging responsibility, because there’s no way they haven’t tasted a wine that is the best example they have tasted from this producer, the best example they could ever think of.”<br /><br />He then stated, “I think it’s irresponsible not to give a perfect score if you think the wine is perfect.”Bob Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099196210297757292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1392866426745021699.post-43177646164472725252017-06-05T09:24:00.699+02:002017-06-05T09:24:00.699+02:00"Indeed, a 100-point Parker wine would get on..."Indeed, a 100-point Parker wine would get only 98-99 points from Tanzer."<br /><br />Parker has awarded 100-point scores to over one hundred wines. (I don't know the actual number.)<br /><br />Whereas Tanzer has awarded a 100-point score to just ONE wine:<br /><br />2010 Egon Muller Scharzhofberger Riesling Trockenbeerenauslese, Mosel, Germany<br /><br />Source: http://www.wine-searcher.com/critics-11-stephen+tanzer<br /><br />Price? $16,926.14<br /><br />Source: http://www.wine-searcher.com/find/egon+muller+scharzhofberger+riesling+tba+wiltingen+saar+mosel+germany/2010<br />Bob Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02089688073031173053noreply@blogger.com